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In this episode, Chuck Anderson and his guest, an expert in creating engaging visual presentations, discuss the art of standing out in virtual meetings, the importance of personal branding, and collaborating for success. They share creative approaches and tools for enhancing audience engagement and ensuring a memorable virtual presence.

Lion Fludd, a former professional magician turned virtual presentation expert, helps individuals and businesses create highly engaging visual presentations to combat “Zoom fatigue” and captivate audiences in virtual settings.

This episode is highly visual and can be fully enjoyed on the Collaborators Unite website or YouTube channel.

Key Points:

– Personal Branding and Collaboration (04:32)

Lion emphasizes the importance of personal branding and collaborating with graphic designers for video presentations.

– Engaging Visual Presentations and Tools (11:15)

The hosts discuss the use of OBS and Ecamm for visual presentations, offering creative ways to keep audiences engaged.

– Virtual Engagement Techniques (17:40)

Lion shares techniques to encourage audience participation and address challenges in virtual meetings.

– Stand Out in Virtual Presentations (25:03)

The discussion focuses on creating a memorable virtual presence and the impact of unique visual backgrounds.

– Lessons in Business and Persistence (33:51)

Lion recommends the book “The 5 Love Languages” by Gary Chapman and emphasizes the importance of taking action and persistence in achieving business goals.

Guest’s Must-read Book Recommendation: Lion Fludd recommends “The 5 Love Languages” by Gary Chapman for valuable insights into personal and business relationships.

Links:

Click here to claim your free gift from Lion Fludd … https://e-committee.ck.page/05235cd0b3 

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Chuck Anderson,

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Transcript
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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the show. This is the,

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creative collaboration show from Collaborators Unite with Chuck

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Anderson. And, today, I have another

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amazing guest for you, especially if you are someone

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who Relies on any type of visual

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presentation. So if you do a lot of Zooms or

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webinars or events or anything visual,

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you're gonna really wanna lean into this episode today. In fact,

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this comes with a warning, And that is if you are listening to this

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on a podcast, I want you to let you know that today's

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episode is highly, highly visual. Anderson

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by all means, listen to the episode, but go back and check it

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out on our website and on

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YouTube, And you'll see the full video presentation

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there as well. So today, I have,

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with me Lian Flood, who is an expert at

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creating highly visual and highly

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engaging visual presentations, that is gonna help you

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to get more engagement and, keep those eyeballs

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on the screen and on you and your message. So First of

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all, Lian, welcome to the show. I'm so glad you're here.

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Hey. Thank you for having me here. First off, I appreciate that,

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and it just means so much me to be here with you and your audience,

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so thank you very much. Oh, fantastic. Well, I know this is gonna be

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time well spent, you know, especially for anyone who does A lot of

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visual presentations. You and I were chatting just before the episode

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there about, backgrounds. I'm sure we'll talk about that a little

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bit, And, really love yours. It took

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me a long time to build this. This is real. This is IKEA

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furniture, But, you know, virtual backgrounds and

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and all of that, there's there's so many different things. And and, of course, yours

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is not virtual, And so we can we can tell people about that as

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well. But first of all, welcome. And I think a good place to start is,

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you know, to you know, I did the light introduction. Maybe, you can go a

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little further and tell everybody about yourself. And why is it

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that you, do what you do, and how did you come to start

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doing this? Yeah. Thank you for that. And that's why I guess

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a a good place to start with that is to tell people

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that what I do in essence is I help

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people create engaging and professional presentations.

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And you can think of me almost like an video

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Interior designer. Because, you know,

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when the virtual world came upon us,

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Everyone was like, I don't know what to do. I I don't know where to

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put my hands at. Do I, you know, where do I look at? So I

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was like, There's a need for people to learn that. And

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one day, my wife said to me because I would get tons of questions. She's

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like, you know what? That's a viable business. People asking you

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all the time, how does yours look that way? How did you get it?

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She's like, Turn that into something. I was like, voila. I'm

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glad I thought of that, honey. Of

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course. That was the beginning of everything from that point.

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Yeah. And, you know, we we found ourselves In a

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much more virtual world, faster

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than we ever thought we would. I mean, I think we were we were

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heading towards more and more virtual all the time, but, you

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know, with the with the lockdowns and everything and everyone staying at home,

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it really accelerated all of that. And And

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while some in person stuff has come back,

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this whole you know, we we're not going back to the way we were,

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visual presentations and doing, doing visual

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presentations, a lot of Zooms, is here

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to stay, and and it's it's something I do multiple times a

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week. So so it's it it I can see that that's very

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relevant. And I will say I attend a lot of webinars as

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well, and they don't always have their stuff

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together. Right? Like, Backgrounds are one

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thing. They are another. I mean so,

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so, you know, so you it sounds like you came up with this for

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yourself, first of all. And then Yeah. A very,

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very wise recommendation from your wife

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to to go

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that caused you to come up with what you're doing right now.

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So I think for me in the whole Constructive, when

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I found out, like, the virtual world was coming, I've always been a fun,

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just enthusiastic person. Like, even in Networking events in person or

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live. I would love to just do something that would catch

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whomever I was speaking with, attention instead of

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just the maybe the old, here's my business card, all kind of things. So

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for a quick example, a little Back story before this is

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I'm actually, semi retired, but I'm actually a professional

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magician. Right? I used to perform In Las Vegas, in the

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casinos and big like that. And one of the things I would do

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in live, Events, networking

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events, is I would pull my business card out, and I had a magic trick

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in which the business card would light on fire,

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Literally, actual flames. And then

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I would blow it out and give it to the person. So it was memorable.

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Even if they didn't know what I did, they remembered, and they would go

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tell someone a story. They met some guy who had a business card on fire.

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He pulled it out of his jacket pocket, Anderson I was

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memorable. So I always wanted to still keep that. Go

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into the virtual world, there wasn't really a way to do it like that. Right?

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Then I could do it on screen, but it wasn't. So I still

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wanted to have fun and be in a virtual event.

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And so I said, let me find a way that I could bring maybe characters

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on screen or have something really fun that comes on screen, and

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I wanted to do that. And I So I developed this mindset of saying

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these meetings are gonna be no sleeping

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zones. Right? This meeting is a no boring sleeping zones. Bring something

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up on screen like that. And that's how it kind of went into that. I

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personally did not wanna be in a meeting In which

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I would be bored.

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I Anderson you still needed to talk and tell your story and present

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whatever you wanted, but It they even came up with a word for it. I

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think they started calling it, Zoom fatigue. Yeah. These the

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people got zoomed out. So that's where it started at for me. I

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still wanted to be memorable even

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in virtual meetings. Yeah.

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And, you know, I've been through some Zoom meetings that were

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it's like, oh, man. Not enough Coffee in the world to keep me awake

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through this thing. And, the thing is and, you know,

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I have spent some time in

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Video production and and and also slide

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production and and Yeah. You know, with when it comes to presentations.

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And, if there is

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not something that moves on the screen,

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you know, sometimes every few seconds That Yeah. Our

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attention starts to divert elsewhere. I have 3 screens on

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my computer. I could easily look over there or down there or over

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there. Yeah. If there's something on your screen that's moving, it's gonna help me

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to keep my attention on it.

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Yeah. Absolutely. And real quick on that, if And

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I've developed 1 I won't say I developed, but I I I I teach that

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in my course. Right? So for all of the listeners who are listening to this

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talk right now, make sure you go and watch The video as he stated before

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because a demonstration I'm just about to show you is, if you

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notice, my screen is in constant motion. I

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have a background, but it's subtle. It's not overt

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where it's gonna make you distracted, but it's done

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on purpose because It's just like in the movies.

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Every 7 seconds, they're cutting to a new scene or

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jump cut or something to keep your brain going. So when I'm in

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a meeting, People will see the motion of my

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screen, but it's not done in a distracting kind of way. So I

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agree with you totally. Mhmm. Yeah. I love that. The

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the background, it's it's so subtle. It's not distracting.

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But just with the with the movement of the colors,

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it does focus My attention. And I think what I

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find myself thinking as well is, you know, is is something

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else gonna change on the screen? I better keep watching.

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Right? Anderson That's a good idea. You just

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gave me idea. I might change the whole background every once in a

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while. I'm glad I thought of it.

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Well, there you go. Well, I mean, the the movement does really help

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with that that focus as well, and it's like Yeah. It

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gives you a reason to keep looking forward, right,

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versus Yeah. You know, over here. And so,

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so I love that. So you created this for yourself, and, what kind

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of presentations were you doing at the time? What what were you?

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Yeah. So when I first started doing this, I was actually doing

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virtual magic. And because it was still I was still performing at

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that Time when, you know, everyone had to go to the virtual world. And so

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I need to come up with different ways of presenting the magic

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on screen So the people would still feel,

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the connection. Because magic is all about connection. You're in person.

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Now I'm on the screen doing it, and you'd lose that connection. So I needed

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to develop a way to do that. And I was, like, okay. Well, let me

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do some things on screen that will Keep the people's attention. And

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I remember there was a moment when I looked back and it was done.

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I don't wanna date myself here, but I think it was, like, In the early

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eighties when Copperfield, David Copperfield did something back

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then on TV, and he had a method where people would be at

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home, Anderson they would look at the screen and see a certain amount

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of playing cards, and he would say, think of something, and then the cards

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would disappear. And eventually, your card was the last card that was on

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screen. And I was, like, that's it. Because

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at that moment, he was doing magic with them in homes for

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millions of people, but They still felt like the trick was

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directly for them, and I said, let me incorporate something like

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that. And that's That kinda pushed me down that road there.

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Oh, that is really cool because yeah. Yeah. Because that's the thing. I mean,

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it's so interactive. I don't even think that

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I've, that I've, witnessed magic

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virtually before, and and it is it is something that's That's very

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real. So you had to solve a problem Yeah. In your business. Like, how

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how do I still have this, You know,

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communicating this visually and still have the same outcome.

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And, and and so then you so then you create so then so you

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have this problem. So So what what were the next steps? So how did you,

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what did you do then to be able to come up with what you're doing

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now? Show in that course there, I'm

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I think I'm a serial entrepreneur. Right? I I don't if that term

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still exists, I'm a serial entrepreneur, And I also have my

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ADHD brain, whereas I'm on 1 subject

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Anderson I'm on to the next. Right? So It just kept progressing, and I was,

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like, okay, well, what can I do with this next? So I started saying, well,

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maybe I could because I would get questions from people's Afterwards, I say, oh,

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my son my daughter's interested in magic. Where can they

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learn it? I was like, oh, you could do this book. And I started saying,

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Well, people keep asking me where can I learn it? I'm telling them to go

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somewhere else to learn it. Why don't I tell them to come to me to

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learn it? Yeah. Well, we're not in the same city. I could just

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maybe develop 30, 40 minutes of a video

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to teach them basic tricks. And again, it was like

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Light bulb, right? Light bulb went off. I said, yeah, just

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make a mini course Anderson. And

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then that's where that started, and that's kind of

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how I started that, teaching other people magic virtually.

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Some live, but then some in the course as well. Yeah.

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That's that's awesome. So who do you

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who do you notice that is coming into your world

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and and and taking your program. What are some of the things you're hearing

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from them in terms of the the struggle

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or, you know, what the what they Either what they're trying to

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overcome or what they're trying to achieve. That's

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there that's the question. Right? Who is it? And I

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think I've narrowed it down

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to people who want to get on screen,

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who want to do something virtual first. They They just don't

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know where to start or how to do it. Then

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second, I have people who have already Started the

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process. They've done webinars. They've done coaching sessions, but

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they feel stuck because they don't get the engagement

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or People may be leaving from their course or

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their membership because it's so just cut and

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dry. And so that those are the 2 main,

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avatars as we call it are people who we focus on. Someone who

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just says, you know what? I don't know where to start. I I wanna make

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content. I wanna Coach, I wanna get my business going. I'm a life

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coach, but I just don't know how to communicate online.

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Okay. Great. That's what we can help you on that. Or someone who's A coach

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and said, hey. I do webinars or I do

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presentations, but people just say it's boring, or they don't respond if I

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ask them questions or something. We can help you with that.

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Yeah. I love that. And, you know, that is something that

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We encounter all the time, in our work. I mean,

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all of our clients run events of some sort, Whether it be

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webinars or workshops or master classes or summits or

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challenges or whatever, and It's one

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thing to get people registered. It's another thing to get people to

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show up, and it's even another thing to get them

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to To stay engaged while they're there.

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And Show, and so that that is a

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huge issue because if we can't keep them engaged I always tell The people in

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my program is like, look. You know, they you can give great

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content, but tomorrow, they're gonna forget most of that

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content. But they're gonna remember you, and they're gonna remember

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how you made them feel. And so how memorable

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can you be? Is is that kind of what you're

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you're going for with your clients as well?

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Absolutely. Because, When I kinda started going

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into this road, I was like, okay. Well, how do I find my clients? Where

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do I find and I I always remembered, just go to the places where they're

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at. Right. And most of my clients are people who I'm, you know,

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working with, they're in other networking meetings, other

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virtual meetings. And so I would simply go there,

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and I I would kind of sit back in the corner because I didn't

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wanna be just upfront with everything and wait till my introduction

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came. But I noticed every meeting I would go in,

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I would always get someone to ask me, hey, I

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saw your, screen. How did you do that?

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Anderson, I was marketing, and that's how I started to get them. Because

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if you are saying that's a really nice screen or

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background or something, Then that means that

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whomever you're marketing to is gonna say it to you. So

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even if they didn't remember my name, They remember there was someone in

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that meeting who had a different standout

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virtual background or virtual presence, as in essence,

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than Other 60 people, other 100 people in that

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meeting. So, yes, I want them to stand

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apart from their competitors. Mhmm. Well and

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that reminds me of how you and I met because we were at a networking

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meeting. We ended up in a breakout room together. And, You know,

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most people who are at these meetings, they've got whatever background

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they have. Sometimes it's their laundry or, you know,

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some other you know, their bed. Yeah. And, you know, this

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this this symmetrical thing took a while to do. This

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is all real furniture, not a virtual background, but I

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remember when we met, like, instantly before you

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even spoke, I'm like, oh, this guy's different. Right. This guy's got

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something different going on because you don't see this every day. You

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don't it stands apart from everyone else who's there.

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Yeah. And and that's kind of the thing that you want to

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make happen, especially if you're gonna try to be

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presenting to listen, let's not even just say clients. Let's just say you're doing a

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webinar. Right? One of the things that I would show people is maybe

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at the beginning of the meeting, you wanna do something where you tell

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Someone to turn on their cameras. Right? That's one of the things that's

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big. Right? Where I have a setup example,

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I have this come on my screen, and it just it

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it it the lighting, the the where it just flash for a

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second. Hey. Your camera's off. Make sure you turn it on. It pops to their

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eye, and that's a Zoom thing that everyone's familiar with. And then when

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they see that, they go, oh, I better turn my camera on. Right? So

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it's just something so I don't have to say it. I can have

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it set up automatically Show it comes on every 10 seconds, For

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an example, until I get ready to come on camera, and then when

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I come on, I go, I know y'all saw that little thing flashing that

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said turn your cameras on. I'm a call you out. Jeff, I see your

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camera's off or but it's now fun, and it it

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gives me kind of credences to kinda jump on them without

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automatically coming on camera and sounding Google to, y'all better turn your

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cameras on. Exactly. And,

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well, and we see that in meetings all the time, and and some

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people are a little grumpy about it. You gotta be fun. Right? It's like, You

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know, I I was on a meeting not too long ago. It's like, look. If

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you don't turn your camera on, we're gonna ask you to leave this meeting.

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And, know, that's one way to handle it. I like your way of handling it.

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It's way more fun. Yeah. Yeah. And they they receive it

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better because they know they're supposed to have it on, but they also see that,

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oh, he he or she okay. I like their personality

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because, they they they see it in fun. Right? So yeah.

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Well, after all, I mean, these Zoom meetings are all about engagement. And,

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you know, I I just did a webinar earlier today that had 50

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people on it, and it's You know, it is how do you

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engage with 50 people virtually?

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You know, with smaller groups, we can bring them up on,

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and have them share. We can have them talk. But when you get into larger

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rooms, there isn't time in the agenda for that. It would take

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the full 90 minutes Just have everyone talk. And

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and and some don't know when to stop, talking as

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well. And so so then,

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having other creative ways to engage with

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them when you can't bring them on to the mic and have

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everyone talking. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's

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see, this is why I love doing these kind of things. Right? Because you just

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said something that sparked another kind of

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My my ADHD brain to go. Right? So you just

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said they take forever, and they may take a little bit more time. Right? So

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I have a thing where I teach my students and so forth whereas someone will

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come up on a on a screen or something, and I would tell them right

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up front, alright. Hey. So this is your time. So now I put the time,

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so the podcast listeners, make sure you go and see this, because right now there's

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a countdown timer that came on a screen, But also

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along with a circular kind of rapid fire kind

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of question. So they know this is the amount of time you've got to

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speak. And I'll be like, oh, your time's going out. You better hurry up. Better

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hurry up. And then at the end, it flashes red Show

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they know that, oh, danger zone. And I'm just like, hurry up. So

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again, it's fun, but I don't have to directly, you

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know, overly, force them to,

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So say, okay, your time's coming up. Because I'll see people hold up

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their cell phone. Mhmm. Yeah. That works. But

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If it's on screen, everyone gets to see it, and you made it more fun.

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So yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And the you know,

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there There's probably a long list of these kinds of challenges that

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happen in Zoom meetings that we could, that we could,

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list off. One of the questions

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I know people will have because I've, you know, I've heard it

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before from them is, like, Obviously, the visual

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representation that you have on your screen is really, really good.

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How much time did you put into that? Like, how Hard is it

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for someone to learn how to do this? Is it, you know, is

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it something that they're going to really have to increase their tech skills to

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a level that they're They're they're not accustomed to, or is this

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achievable for them reasonably well? I love

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I let me tell you, I would Chuck I was salivating for that question. I

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was it was like I was Pavlov's dog. I was waiting for it

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because I was like, yes. Come on. Come on. Come on. No. I loved it

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because The system in the way that I teach it,

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it's I call it my easy a b c 1, 2, 3. I've got

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several testimonials, and, actually, we've got a One recently from a

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gentleman who's 75 years old, and he even came into our group and

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he said, I've done several of these. I wanted to do live, and I couldn't

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understand it. But The system I use, which is called Ecamm, by the way, I

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am an affiliate of it. So if anyone is interested in learning it, I

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do get something from Ecamm. So come to me for it, And I will

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give you, some good tips on it. But it's so

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easy that he, at 75 years old, was like,

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wow. And he wrote this out for us, and he's like, I can do

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this because if it's not easy, you don't wanna do

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it. If it's Too complicated or cumbersome, you're

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gonna be pressing wrong buttons or doing something while you're trying to focus

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on your presentation, which could distract you from doing some other thing.

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So the answer is it's absolutely simple

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and easy. Matter of fact, a new thing that we just

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started doing for people is, remote production. So I had

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a lady who said, I just wanna talk. I don't wanna do any slides. I

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don't wanna do anything. I said, I got you. All you gotta do is come

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on screen, speak your presentation, I'll do the slides, I'll do all of the

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fancy stuff, and that was it. She was like, thank you.

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So Easy peasy. So now you're a

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producer as well. Do you actually do that for for clients? You where

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you'll go and you'll produce on the back end while they're Doing their speaking.

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Yeah. We just that's what I've done about 10 of those

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now. So it's something that I

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kept thinking about, and I never did. And then people just kept asking me. I

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said, why don't I just get into it? Because I didn't wanna put more on

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my plate. But I was like, okay, so I can kinda just ease into that.

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So, yes, I do that now as well because some people don't want

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to. They they don't want to do all of the Anderson and out of

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things that's needed. They just wanna talk, and they just wanna present. I

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was like, okay. Cool. Let's help them out as well. Yeah. I love

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that. And I think that's one of the things that that

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people fear is, am I gonna have to, How hard is

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this gonna have be to learn, and can I really do this? And

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and so it sounds like you have a way of showing them to do it

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that's Really, really simple. And if they really don't wanna

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do it, you're available to you know, there's a way that they

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can have you Help them with it on the back end.

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Yeah. Absolutely. I tell people for me, I'm absolutely

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simply amazing at what I do, and I don't say that,

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you Show, to bolster, oh, there it is right there. So There we go. So

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but it is true because I look at it as myself. My

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name is my brand. Mhmm. It's who I

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am. I need that brand to be the top of the line, top notch.

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And if I am not, people are gonna go tell 4 other people,

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it wasn't what it was supposed to be. Right? So I want to

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ensure that your name is your brand, and you look good. You look good. I

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look good. The whole story goes together. Yeah. That's

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amazing. You know, at the top of the

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episode, I mentioned the, you know, the theme of our show is is

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collaboration and creative collaboration. And one of the reasons why

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I invited you to the show is I see you

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as Someone who would be really great to collaborate with,

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especially for anyone who does a lot of

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Zooms, a lot of visual presentations, and and things like that.

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And so so so so 2 parts to this question.

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Right? 1 is, You know, why would

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somebody collaborate with you versus trying to do this on your

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own? I think it's probably a very obvious answer, but

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I'll let you answer it. And then also, you know, how

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how collaborations played a role in in in

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in your business, and And what do you look for for for

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people that you collaborate with or partner with? Yeah.

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Absolutely. So very first question, like you said, is a simple one to

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one because as you're collaborating, you're going to learn as

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well. So then you're starting to understand the system.

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Because When we can figure out each other's

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weaknesses and strengths, then we can amplify those. Right? So for an

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example, I do, and going into the second question a little bit as

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well, As I collaborate with a lot of,

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designer, web designers or web graphic designers,

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because A lot of the things that people see come up on my screen,

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I that's not my strength. I don't know how to directly create a logo

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For your brand, I have associates who do, then

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I can send them to you. Hey, Chuck. You know what? I've got an associate

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who does that Graphic designer, go and speak with him or her.

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They can help you and create that and vice versa. So then now they're

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telling someone who does graphic designs, they look at that.

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You say, okay. Now I wanna do a video. Hey. Go see

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Lion. He does videos. So collaboration helps so

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many ways. Do not look at it as, I wanna keep all

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of the, the funds or the everything to

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myself. No, because your name gets put out there more.

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People see it more. Someone may see

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a graphic design on my show and they say, Oh, I loved how

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those, things just came up. For an example, when you see this right here come

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up on the screen, I didn't create that. I just put it on the

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screen, but I can tell you who did it

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for me, and it worked so well. So I would highly

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suggest anyone to learn to Collaboration, And especially if you're clever with

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me, we're gonna work together, and we're gonna help each other Show. Because when

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we grow, the more we know, all that good stuff is like that.

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Yeah. Amazing. And we definitely look forward to

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doing more with you as well because, again, like, a 100% of our

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clients do presentations, And they do Zooms. They do

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webinars. They do events, all all of that.

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And having a highly engaged audience is

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super, Super important with that. Yes. So,

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look, we've covered a lot of ground today, and I love the I love the

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demonstration. Look. You know, anyone listening in right now Who

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is listening in on a podcast? You just have to

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go to the website or go to my YouTube channel. Yeah. The

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link is right there, in the show notes. You've got you gotta go

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back and you gotta watch the video of this because, the I I didn't

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even know how to describe, like, Some of the visual things that have popped up

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there we go. Another one that has popped up on the screen literally,

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and, and so you just gotta go and check this out. And

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it's what I will also say,

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Lan, is what it it causes an emotion. Like, there's an

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instant smile. There's an instant, you know,

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feeling that comes just from showing simple something simple

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like that on the screen. Yes. But how Effective is

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that? There we go. See? That's memorable. Right?

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It's memorable, and Yeah. It keeps people engaged. And I and I And

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it's something that I endeavor to do more, in my

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presentations. And so, as

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a non Mac User. As a Windows user, I I have

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to find other solutions because, Ecamm is is not

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available to me, but, you know, there's there's a way to do it. There is

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a way to do it. Yeah. And and I was gonna tell you really

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quick with that is, that's another, oh, something I put on

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my plate. So, yes, There is a system, and I I have no worries and

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here goes that collaboration thing. Right? I I've learned from my coach, because I I

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hired a coach who taught me, hey, give away more than you take. There is

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a system that does probably 90% of what you see on my screen

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for anyone who and and it does work for PC. It's

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called OBS, Oscar Bravo Sierra. It's

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free. Right? The only differences or the major differences

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is a higher learning curve. Mhmm. Whereas, Ecamm, for an

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example, it has cut down my workload, for example, whereas it took me 6

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hours to edit something. Now it may take me an hour and a half, For

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an example, where OBS is still gonna take you 6 to 8

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hours to do it. Not literally, but just showing a big difference so that So

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you can still do it, Chuck. You can get it done. Awesome. Well, I look

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forward to getting that done. Now along those lines, I

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mean, one of the next Questions people have is like, okay. What do I need?

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What do I, what are what are my next steps? And I know you

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have a free gift that that We'll help people along those lines. You wanna

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tell everyone a little bit a bit more about that, and we'll make sure that

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the links to that are beneath the video and in the podcast show

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notes. Yeah, absolutely. I I my, like, free gift

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is, a list of recommended items for you to start with.

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Right? Microphones, Headphones, and they range from a

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variable, like, financial status of maybe $20 up

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to the highest 3, $400 for example. Right? Because I don't

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suggest you directly start off with some of the most expensive

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things if you're not, you know, really into it. Right? But grab that

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free gift because it's gonna give you an idea and at least take you down

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a rabbit hole. Maybe you see 1 microphone that's recommended, and then you start

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looking and searching Or at the microphones. Right? So

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I highly recommend, if nothing else, get that free gift for

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the recommendations Starting your path because you might say to yourself,

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I need a new microphone. I just don't know which one to get because there's

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so many out there. You gotta find the right one that works for you.

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Well, if you wanna get access to that equipment list, Chuck out the

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link Just beneath this video, and if you're on podcast still and

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you haven't gone Chuck out the video, the the links to all of that is

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right there, in the show notes. Go go check that out.

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And, of course, we have your, your all your your your links

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and everything are all all there as well, Lyon. So, well,

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look, before we bring this episode to a close, I just gotta ask you. This

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is a this is a question that I ask all of my guests.

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I And I'm was surprised at the answer because I

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thought that we would hear the same answer

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over and over and over again, and it turned out It's

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different for everybody, and that is Yeah. You Show, and so much about,

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you know, growing our business is about learning, and I learn a lot from books.

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I've got a Just a few of them back here. If

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you were to recommend just 1 must

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read book That has been either

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really inspirational for you or

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helpful for you, and you say, you know what? You gotta go and you gotta

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go and read this book next. Is there one that you would recommend?

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No. I would. And it's so crazy because it has nothing to

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do Directly with business. Although

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it, to me, helped out my business tremendously, and it

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was the 5 love languages. And the

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reason why I say that is because especially during a time frame of

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when everything went virtual and the world were going crazy upside down, we were

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stuck in a together with our spouses and partners or whomever,

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we were starting to drive each other crazy, and my wife and I delved into

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that book. And at that moment is I saw everything Flip for us

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because we became so much more supportive in each

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other's endeavors. Hey, go for it. I remember there was times where I would put

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our webinar or Try something and 2 people would show up, you

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Show? And then I was, like, no, this isn't working. And

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my wife would do techniques in that book, and it just And I didn't even

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know it. I I read the chapter, and and then later, she's,

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like, you notice I did this? That was in chapter whatever. I'm like,

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oh, you sneaky. So but she pushed me,

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and then it made me say, oh, you know what? Yes. I'm not gonna quit.

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I'm just gonna, you know, relook at it and relaunch it and do some

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things. So I would say the 5 love languages because it brought she and I

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closer, And it helped each of our endeavors and

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businesses that we were, you know, working towards, and it just it it

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exploded everything for us. Show, yeah, 5 love

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languages is what I would recommend. That is a great, book. And by

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the way, that's, for anyone listening in who hasn't heard of it, that's Gary

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Chapman, that, wrote that book.

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And I will say that it it does relate to business in the

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fact that all of our clients have love languages as well.

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And and so, yeah, not just our partner, but each one

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of them, will Value one of

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those love languages more than the others. And when you can discover what

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that is and deliver your service or Deliver your

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content in a way that resonates with that, you're gonna have a much

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higher acceptance rate. And sometimes it's well, it's gonna be

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different for everyone. Especially when I'm working with people 1 on 1, it's

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like, what does this person value the most?

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Sometimes it's that extra little gift. Sometimes it's it's

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it's an extra service. Sometimes it's just

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some, acknowledgement. Right? And

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Anderson there's different ways that we can communicate

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with people based upon what we know They value and

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what their love language is. And so Love that. Take that to a

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whole another level. Yes. Talk to the Kentucky Man, look at this. This

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recommendation. Anderson we'll we'll definitely

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add that to our learning library. We'll put links to it here, beneath

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this video and in the the show notes. So,

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Lyon, great great episode. I I really,

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look forward to publishing this one and Seeing what else you and I

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can, come up with, it it's it's great to get to know

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you a little bit more here through this process. Yeah.

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And so to bring this episode to a close, if you were to just give

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our listeners one final piece of advice or words of wisdom,

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What would you leave them here with today? There we go. That's

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the rub. I would say you must get those

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gremlins Off your shoulders. If you

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were sitting there, you're thinking, I want to do this, but I'm afraid

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someone's going to reject me. Someone's gonna Say no. The world

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hey. It always happens. But you gotta start. And as I tell

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my students, start Ugly. I don't care

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about perfection. I care that you start. Hit

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record, practice, do whatever you gotta do, But

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stop being afraid and go after it. Every year, we say the same thing. Oh,

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I'm a do this and resolutions Anderson but do not try to eat

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that steak at once. Cut it up small

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pieces. You will eventually eat the entire steak.

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Just don't try to swallow it all at once. And that's my advice is to

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Just get started. Just do it. Contact me. Contact

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anyone who you say but contact me first, though,

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And just start. That's, yeah, that's my advice. Get that gremlin off your

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shoulder and start. Just

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start. And then once you start, keep moving forward, and that's

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and that's Yeah. And and my audience knows I always I always end with

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that. And so this has been, this has been a great episode. I

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think this is a game changer in terms of anyone who does presentations,

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which is pretty much all of us now, in this virtual world,

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I I am on Zoom multiple times a day, and it can help

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in so many different ways. So thank you so much for your generosity. Thank you

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to my audience for being here. I hope you learned something today. And, of course,

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this only matters if you put it into practice.

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So I want you to take something that you learned here today and

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take that action. Maybe it's something to do with your

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presentations. Maybe it's to go and, download the equipment list

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or reach out to Lion, and see how he can help.

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But take 1 action today, that can help

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you make a big difference in your business tomorrow.

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And, and never Ever ever give up on your big dream?

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The only way to fail is to quit, so always keep moving forward.

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Until next time, this has been Chuck Anderson. My guest has been Lion Flood,

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Anderson you on the next one,

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